1. AGameGolf Said,

   Well stated dekkker

2. dekkker Said,

   pecky 1234,
   If Trackman had gathered different data,they would not hesitate a split second to publish it. Their business to measure and improve on the gathered data.
   You suggest they do not out of deference to teaching pros, including Nicklaus himself who endorses this simple effective method.
   Nicklaus does not endorse ideas or products that do not meet his high standard.
   I’ve used Jack’s method and it works just fine, thank you.

   Contradicting data would be out there. I’ve not seen it.

3. pecky1234 Said,

   i have seen that vid from steve bann. if u watch closly you c that the club is actually aimed to the right or left of the tree. and even if it was aimed at the tree at ADDRESS, doesnt mean it is at IMPACT. where the face aims at address means little

4. AGameGolf Said,

   Watch this video on my golf instruction blog agamegolfinstructiondotcom slash golfinstructionblog slash hooking-around-trouble-steven-bann/
   and tell me why the golf ball goes around the tree and doesn’t fly into the tree, even though the clubface is pointing directly at the tree. Based on what you’re saying the golf ball should hit the tree because the clubface is pointing at it but it doesn’t. Why not?

5. pecky1234 Said,

   nicklaus aimed more left or right, or swung more to the left or right to get his draw or fade. tiger may say he does on his demonstrations, but trust me, he doesnt. if he wants a fade he holds the face open. if he wanrs a draw he turns it over. Trackman is the radar used by the PGA and Euro tour. why?? bcos its the most accurate. it says that the ball will start where the face is aimed. im not sayin ur technique cant work it can. but it needs alterations

6. AGameGolf Said,

   I’m sure Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods would appreciate knowing that since they’re apparently doing it incorrectly. Maybe they’ll score better as a result. While your at it, ask your physics professor to validate your theory.

7. pecky1234 Said,

   i know they do.
   they’re wrong to.
   trackman, the most accurate ball tracking system used on the pga tour, has had this data for years. that the ball will start where the face is lookin at impact, not where the path is aimed. they wont publish it as many pros, like the ones you mention teachin it the other way

8. AGameGolf Said,

   This technique is taught by Jack Nicklaus in his video “golf my way.” There are many other pga pros who also teach this technique. This isn’t my personal idea.

9. pecky1234 Said,

   very well illustrated…. shame its wrong
   the ball will start pretty much where-ever the club face is aimed. it will then curve away from the parth, depending on the face to the path

10. AGameGolf Said,

    yup

11. stfuuuuuuuuu Said,

    are u suure this tecnique works?

12. prixman300 Said,

    By adjusting the angle of the club face, a fade adds loft to the club and a draw takes loft away. For example, if you’re 165yds out and typically hit the 8 iron, you may want to hit a 7 iron fade. Stick with the 8 iron for a big draw though because the closed clubface and decreased loft will automatically compensate for the added distance of the curved ball flight.

13. AGameGolf Said,

    There’s more than one technique to hit a draw. This method lets peope use their regular swing which is easier than trying to remember how to change your swing for this type of shot. It’s also the way that Jack Nicklaus teaches it. See his video “Golf My Way.”

14. chitovaldez Said,

    Weeeeellll, I don´t know if this is the right way to teach people how to hit a draw

15. AGameGolf Said,

    How much in and out swing do you use to hit a 5 yard draw vs. a 10 or even 20 yard draw? The great thing about the method in this video is that you can control that so for example if a pin is placed on the left side of the green, you can control how much draw you apply to get the ball to turn toward the pin while keeping it on the green.

16. drummerkingmike Said,

    Great explination. I cant wait to see if I can get some better results with this method!

17. DatDamKeyid Said,

    Yeah dude I agree, people that use that dude’s diagram usually have a bad grip. To hit a fade you must start the golf swing OUT in front of the body.

18. DigitalShaolin Said,

    Yeah I think your method would definitely produce more accurate targeting for most people. I just find that changing my swing is the easiest for me personally, and it’s more fun. Good video though, really makes it clear for those who don’t already understand it.

19. AGameGolf Said,

    That’s another method that works. I can control the amount of draw/fade more accurately using the methods in this video than changing my swing and swinging out to in or in to out and delaying release with a fade or releasing early during a draw.

20. DigitalShaolin Said,

    I prefer to draw the ball by simply swinging with an “in to out” path and releasing the club face. That’s about as basic as you can get.

21. OwzatOllie Said,

    Very very good, and a lot easier to understand than most! 5 stars

22. kickassproductions9 Said,

    very well explained good props too

23. seanyq Said,

    good tip

24. AGameGolf Said,

    This principle applies for every single golf club. The one thing ro remember is that the clubs with the least loft apply the most sidespin while the most lofted clubs apply the least sidespin. For instance, you can’t fade a club with more loft than about a 7 or 8 iron because when you open the clubface, it has too much loft and no sidespin. A driver is the easiest to fade or draw because it has the least loft. That’s why people tell you to tee off with a 3 wood if you can’t hit straight.

25. hokceydude5279 Said,

    excellent info
    this is good for the beginner or intermediate golfer who doesnt dare try to change his swing to apply a draw or fade
    this post has a point, though
    how would you do this with a driver or wood? in the same fashion, or…?

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